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10 Semantic Apps to Watch

Written by Richard MacManus / November 29, 2007 12:30 AM / 39 Comments

One of the highlights of October’s Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco was the emergence of ‘Semantic Apps’ as a force. Note that we’re not necessarily talking about the Semantic Web, which is the Tim Berners-Lee W3C led initiative that touts technologies like RDF, OWL and other standards for metadata. Semantic Apps may use those technologies, but not necessarily. This was a point made by the founder of one of the Semantic Apps listed below, Danny Hillis of Freebase (who is as much a tech legend as Berners-Lee).

The purpose of this post is to highlight 10 Semantic Apps. We’re not touting this as a ‘Top 10’, because there is no way to rank these apps at this point – many are still non-public apps, e.g. in private beta. It reflects the nascent status of this sector, even though people like Hillis and Spivack have been working on their apps for years now.

What is a Semantic App?

Firstly let’s define “Semantic App”. A key element is that the apps below all try to determine the meaning of text and other data, and then create connections for users. Another of the founders mentioned below, Nova Spivack of Twine, noted at the Summit that data portability and connectibility are keys to these new semantic apps – i.e. using the Web as platform.

In September Alex Iskold wrote a great primer on this topic, called Top-Down: A New Approach to the Semantic Web. In that post, Alex Iskold explained that there are two main approaches to Semantic Apps:

1) Bottom Up – involves embedding semantical annotations (meta-data) right into the data.
2) Top down – relies on analyzing existing information; the ultimate top-down solution would be a fully blown natural language processor, which is able to understand text like people do.

Now that we know what Semantic Apps are, let’s take a look at some of the current leading (or promising) products…


Freebase aims to “open up the silos of data and the connections between them”, according to founder Danny Hillis at the Web 2.0 Summit. Freebase is a database that has all kinds of data in it and an API. Because it’s an open database, anyone can enter new data in Freebase. An example page in the Freebase db looks pretty similar to a Wikipedia page. When you enter new data, the app can make suggestions about content. The topics in Freebase are organized by type, and you can connect pages with links, semantic tagging. So in summary, Freebase is all about shared data and what you can do with it.


Powerset (see our coverage here and here) is a natural language search engine. The system relies on semantic technologies that have only become available in the last few years. It can make “semantic connections”, which helps make the semantic database. The idea is that meaning and knowledge gets extracted automatically from Powerset. The product isn’t yet public, but it has been riding a wave of publicity over 2007.


Twine claims to be the first mainstream Semantic Web app, although it is still in private beta. See our in-depth review. Twine automatically learns about you and your interests as you populate it with content – a “Semantic Graph”. When you put in new data, Twine picks out and tags certain content with semantic tags – e.g. the name of a person. An important point is that Twine creates new semantic and rich data. But it’s not all user-generated. They’ve also done machine learning against Wikipedia to ‘learn’ about new concepts. And they will eventually tie into services like Freebase. At the Web 2.0 Summit, founder Nova Spivack compared Twine to Google, saying it is a “bottom-up, user generated crawl of the Web”.


AdaptiveBlue are makers of the Firefox plugin, BlueOrganizer. They also recently launched a new version of their SmartLinks product, which allows web site publishers to add semantically charged links to their site. SmartLinks are browser ‘in-page overlays’ (similar to popups) that add additional contextual information to certain types of links, including links to books, movies, music, stocks, and wine. AdaptiveBlue supports a large list of top web sites, automatically recognizing and augmenting links to those properties.

SmartLinks works by understanding specific types of information (in this case links) and wrapping them with additional data. SmartLinks takes unstructured information and turns it into structured information by understanding a basic item on the web and adding semantics to it.

[Disclosure: AdaptiveBlue founder and CEO Alex Iskold is a regular RWW writer]


Hakia is one of the more promising Alt Search Engines around, with a focus on natural language processing methods to try and deliver ‘meaningful’ search results. Hakia attempts to analyze the concept of a search query, in particular by doing sentence analysis. Most other major search engines, including Google, analyze keywords. The company told us in a March interview that the future of search engines will go beyond keyword analysis – search engines will talk back to you and in effect become your search assistant. One point worth noting here is that, currently, Hakia has limited post-editing/human interaction for the editing of hakia Galleries, but the rest of the engine is 100% computer powered.

Hakia has two main technologies:

1) QDEX Infrastructure (which stands for Query Detection and Extraction) – this does the heavy lifting of analyzing search queries at a sentence level.

2) SemanticRank Algorithm – this is essentially the science they use, made up of ontological semantics that relate concepts to each other.


Talis is a 40-year old UK software company which has created a semantic web application platform. They are a bit different from the other 9 companies profiled here, as Talis has released a platform and not a single product. The Talis platform is kind of a mix between Web 2.0 and the Semantic Web, in that it enables developers to create apps that allow for sharing, remixing and re-using data. Talis believes that Open Data is a crucial component of the Web, yet there is also a need to license data in order to ensure its openness. Talis has developed its own content license, called the Talis Community License, and recently they funded some legal work around the Open Data Commons License.

According to Dr Paul Miller, Technology Evangelist at Talis, the company’s platform emphasizes “the importance of context, role, intention and attention in meaningfully tracking behaviour across the web.” To find out more about Talis, check out their regular podcasts – the most recent one features Kaila Colbin (an occassional AltSearchEngines correspondent) and Branton Kenton-Dau of VortexDNA.

UPDATE: Marshall Kirkpatrick published an interview with Dr Miller the day after this post. Check it out here.


Venture funded UK semantic search engine TrueKnowledge unveiled a demo of its private beta earlier this month. It reminded Marshall Kirkpatrick of the still-unlaunched Powerset, but it’s also reminiscent of the very real Ask.com “smart answers”. TrueKnowledge combines natural language analysis, an internal knowledge base and external databases to offer immediate answers to various questions. Instead of just pointing you to web pages where the search engine believes it can find your answer, it will offer you an explicit answer and explain the reasoning patch by which that answer was arrived at. There’s also an interesting looking API at the center of the product. “Direct answers to humans and machine questions” is the company’s tagline.

Founder William Tunstall-Pedoe said he’s been working on the software for the past 10 years, really putting time into it since coming into initial funding in early 2005.


Tripit is an app that manages your travel planning. Emre Sokullu reviewed it when it presented at TechCrunch40 in September. With TripIt, you forward incoming bookings to plans@tripit.com and the system manages the rest. Their patent pending “itinerator” technology is a baby step in the semantic web – it extracts useful infomation from these mails and makes a well structured and organized presentation of your travel plan. It pulls out information from Wikipedia for the places that you visit. It uses microformats – the iCal format, which is well integrated into GCalendar and other calendar software.

The company claimed at TC40 that “instead of dealing with 20 pages of planning, you just print out 3 pages and everything is done for you”. Their future plans include a recommendation engine which will tell you where to go and who to meet.

Clear Forest

ClearForest is one of the companies in the top-down camp. We profiled the product in December ’06 and at that point ClearForest was applying its core natural language processing technology to facilitate next generation semantic applications. In April 2007 the company was acquired by Reuters. The company has both a Web Service and a Firefox extension that leverages an API to deliver the end-user application.

The Firefox extension is called Gnosis and it enables you to “identify the people, companies, organizations, geographies and products on the page you are viewing.” With one click from the menu, a webpage you view via Gnosis is filled with various types of annotations. For example it recognizes Companies, Countries, Industry Terms, Organizations, People, Products and Technologies. Each word that Gnosis recognizes, gets colored according to the category.

Also, ClearForest’s Semantic Web Service offers a SOAP interface for analyzing text, documents and web pages.


Spock is a people search engine that got a lot of buzz when it launched. Alex Iskold went so far as to call it “one of the best vertical semantic search engines built so far.” According to Alex there are four things that makes their approach special:

  • The person-centric perspective of a query
  • Rich set of attributes that characterize people (geography, birthday, occupation, etc.)
  • Usage of tags as links or relationships between people
  • Self-correcting mechanism via user feedback loop

As a vertical engine, Spock knows important attributes that people have: name, gender, age, occupation and location just to name a few. Perhaps the most interesting aspect of Spock is its usage of tags – all frequent phrases that Spock extracts via its crawler become tags; and also users can add tags. So Spock leverages a combination of automated tags and people power for tagging.


What have we missed? 😉 Please use the comments to list other Semantic Apps you know of. It’s an exciting sector right now, because Semantic Web and Web 2.0 technologies alike are being used to create new semantic applications. One gets the feeling we’re only at the beginning of this trend.

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Google: “We’re Not Doing a Good Job with Structured Data”

Written by Sarah Perez / February 2, 2009 7:32 AM / 9 Comments

During a talk at the New England Database Day conference at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Google’s Alon Halevy admitted that the search giant has “not been doing a good job” presenting the structured data found on the web to its users. By “structured data,” Halevy was referring to the databases of the “deep web” – those internet resources that sit behind forms and site-specific search boxes, unable to be indexed through passive means.

Google’s Deep Web Search

Halevy, who heads the “Deep Web” search initiative at Google, described the “Shallow Web” as containing about 5 million web pages while the “Deep Web” is estimated to be 500 times the size. This hidden web is currently being indexed in part by Google’s automated systems that submit queries to various databases, retrieving the content found for indexing. In addition to that aspect of the Deep Web – dubbed “vertical searching” – Halevy also referenced two other types of Deep Web Search: semantic search and product search.

Google wants to also be able to retrieve the data found in structured tables on the web, said Halevy, citing a table on a page listing the U.S. presidents as an example. There are 14 billion such tables on the web, and, after filtering, about 154 million of them are interesting enough to be worth indexing.

Can Google Dig into the Deep Web?

The question that remains is whether or not Google’s current search engine technology is going to be adept at doing all the different types of Deep Web indexing or if they will need to come up with something new. As of now, Google uses the Big Table database and MapReduce framework for everything search related, notes Alex Esterkin, Chief Architect at Infobright, Inc., a company delivering open source data warehousing solutions. During the talk, Halevy listed a number of analytical database application challenges that Google is currently dealing with: schema auto-complete, synonym discovery, creating entity lists, association between instances and aspects, and data level synonyms discovery. These challenges are addressed by Infobright’s technology, said Esterkin, but “Google will have to solve these problems the hard way.”

Also mentioned during the speech was how Google plans to organize “aspects” of search queries. The company wants to be able to separate exploratory queries (e.g., “Vietnam travel”) from ones where a user is in search of a particular fact (“Vietnam population”). The former query should deliver information about visa requirements, weather and tour packages, etc. In a way, this is like what the search service offered by Kosmix is doing. But Google wants to go further, said Halevy. “Kosmix will give you an ‘aspect,’ but it’s attached to an information source. In our case, all the aspects might be just Web search results, but we’d organize them differently.”

Yahoo Working on Similar Structured Data Retrieval

The challenges facing Google today are also being addressed by their nearest competitor in search, Yahoo. In December, Yahoo announced that they were taking their SearchMonkey technology in-house to automate the extraction of structured information from large classes of web sites. The results of that in-house extraction technique will allow Yahoo to augment their Yahoo Search results with key information returned alongside the URLs.

In this aspect of web search, it’s clear that no single company has yet to dominate. However, even if a non-Google company surges ahead, it may not be enough to get people to switch engines. Today, “Google” has become synonymous with web search, just like “Kleenex” is a tissue, “Band-Aid” is an adhesive bandage, and “Xerox” is a way to make photocopies. Once that psychological mark has been made into our collective psyches and the habit formed, people tend to stick with what they know, regardless of who does it better. That’s something that’s a bit troublesome – if better search technology for indexing the Deep Web comes into existence outside of Google, the world may not end up using it until such point Google either duplicates or acquires the invention.

Still, it’s far too soon to write Google off yet. They clearly have a lead when it comes to search and that came from hard work, incredibly smart people, and innovative technical achievements. No doubt they can figure out this Deep Web thing, too. (We hope).

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2009 Predictions and Recommendations for Web 2.0 and Social Networks

Christopher Rollyson

Volatility, Uncertainly and Opportunity—Move Crisply while Competitors Are in Disarray

Now that the Year in Review 2008 has summarized key trends, we are in excellent position for 2009 prognostications, so welcome to Part II. As all experienced executives know, risk and reward are inseparable twins, and periods of disruption elevate both, so you will have much more opportunity to produce uncommon value than normal.

This is a high-stakes year in which we can expect surprises. Web 2.0 and social networks can help because they increase flexibility and adaptiveness. Alas, those who succeed will have to challenge conventional thinking considerably, which is not a trivial exercise in normal times. The volatility that many businesses face will make it more difficult because many of their clients and/or employees will be distracted. It will also make it easier because some of them will perceive that extensive change is afoot, and Web 2.0 will blend in with the cacaphony. Disruption produces unusual changes in markets, and the people that perceive the new patterns and react appropriately emerge as new leaders.

2009 Predictions

These are too diverse to be ranked in any particular order. Please share your reactions and contribute those that I have missed.

  1. The global financial crisis will continue to add significant uncertainty in the global economy in 2009 and probably beyond. I have no scientific basis for this, but there are excellent experts of every flavor on the subject, so take your pick. I believe that we are off the map, and anyone who says that he’s sure of a certain outcome should be considered with a healthy skepticism.
    • All I can say is my friends, clients and sources in investment and commercial banking tell me it’s not over yet, and uncertainty is the only certainty until further notice. This has not yet been fully leeched.
    • Western governments, led the the U.S., are probably prolonging the pain because governments usually get bailouts wrong. However, voters don’t have the stomachs for hardship, so we are probably trading short-term “feel good” efforts for a prolonged adjustment period.
  2. Widespread social media success stories in 2009 in the most easily measurable areas such as talent management, business development, R&D and marketing.
    • 2008 saw a significant increase in enterprise executives’ experimentation with LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube and enterprise (internal) social networks. These will begin to bear fruit in 2009, after which a “mad rush of adoption” will ensue.
    • People who delay adoption will pay dearly in terms of consulting fees, delayed staff training and retarded results.
  3. Internal social networks will largely disappoint. Similar to intranets, they will produce value, but few enterprises are viable long-term without seamlessly engaging the burgeoning external world of experts.
    In general, the larger and more disparate an organization’s audience
    is, the more value it can create, but culture must encourage emergent, cross-boundary connections, which is where many organizations fall down.


  • If you’re a CIO who’s banking heavily on your behind-the-firewall implementation, just be aware that you need to engage externally as well.
  • Do it fast because education takes longer than you think.
  • There are always more smart people outside than inside any organization.
  • Significant consolidation among white label social network vendors, so use your usual customary caution when signing up partners.
    • Due diligence and skill portability will help you to mitigate risks. Any vendor worth their salt will use standardized SOA-friendly architecture and feature sets. As I wrote last year, Web 2.0 is not your father’s software, so focus on people and process more than technology.
    • If your vendor hopeful imposes process on your people, run.
  • No extensive M&A among big branded sites like Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter although there will probably be some. The concept of the social ecosystem holds that nodes on pervasive networks can add value individually. LinkedIn and Facebook have completely different social contexts. “Traditional” executives tend to view disruptions as “the new thing” that they want to put into a bucket (”let them all buy each other, so I only have to learn one!”). Wrong. This is the new human nervous system, and online social venues, like their offline counterparts, want specificity because they add more value that way. People hack together the networks to which they belong based on their goals and interests.
    • LinkedIn is very focused on the executive environment, and they will not buy Facebook or Twitter. They might buy a smaller company. They are focused on building an executive collaboration platform, and a large acquisition would threaten their focus. LinkedIn is in the initial part of its value curve, they have significant cash, and they’re profitable. Their VCs can smell big money down the road, so they won’t sell this year.
    • Twitter already turned down Facebook, and my conversations with them lead me to believe that they love their company; and its value is largely undiscovered as of yet. They will hold out as long as they can.
    • Facebook has staying power past 2009. They don’t need to buy anyone of import; they are gaining global market share at a fast clip. They already enable customers to build a large part of the Facebook experience, and they have significant room to innovate. Yes, there is a backlash in some quarters against their size. I don’t know Mark Zuckerberg personally, and I don’t have a feeling for his personal goals.
    • I was sad to see that Dow Jones sold out to NewsCorp and, as a long-time Wall Street Journal subscriber, I am even more dismayed now. This will prove a quintessential example of value destruction. The Financial Times currently fields a much better offering. The WSJ is beginning to look like MySpace! As for MySpace itself, I don’t have a firm bead on it but surmise that it has a higher probability of major M&A than the aforementioned: its growth has stalled, Facebook continues to gain, and Facebook uses more Web 2.0 processes, so I believe it will surpass MySpace in terms of global audience.
    • In being completely dominant, Google is the Wal-Mart of Web 2.0, and I don’t have much visibility into their plans, but I think they could make significant waves in 2009. They are very focused on applying search innovation to video, which is still in the initial stages of adoption, so YouTube is not going anywhere.
    • I am less familiar with Digg, Xing, Bebo, Cyworld. Of course, Orkut is part of the Googleverse.
  • Significant social media use by the Obama Administration. It has the knowledge, experience and support base to pursue fairly radical change. Moreover, the degree of change will be in synch with the economy: if there is a significant worsening, expect the government to engage people to do uncommon things.
    • Change.gov is the first phase in which supporters or any interested person is invited to contribute thoughts, stories and documents to the transition team. It aims to keep people engaged and to serve the government on a volunteer basis
    • The old way of doing things was to hand out form letters that you would mail to your representative. Using Web 2.0, people can organize almost instantly, and results are visible in real-time. Since people are increasingly online somewhere, the Administration will invite them from within their favorite venue (MySpace, Facebook…).
    • Obama has learned that volunteering provides people with a sense of meaning and importance. Many volunteers become evangelists.
  • Increasing citizen activism against companies and agencies, a disquieting prospect but one that I would not omit from your scenario planning (ask yourself, “How could people come together and magnify some of our blemishes?” more here). To whit:
    • In 2007, an electronic petition opposing pay-per-use road tolls in the UK reached 1.8 million signatories, stalling a major government initiative. Although this did not primarily employ social media, it is indicative of the phenomenon.
    • In Q4 2008, numerous citizen groups organized Facebook groups (25,000 signatures in a very short time) to oppose television and radio taxes, alarming the Swiss government. Citizens are organizing to stop paying obligatory taxes—and to abolish the agency that administers the tax system. Another citizen initiative recently launched on the Internet collected 60,000 signatures to oppose biometric passports. German links. French links.
    • In the most audacious case, Ahmed Maher is using Facebook to try to topple the government of Egypt. According to Wired’s Cairo Activists Use Facebook to Rattle Regime, activists have organized several large demonstrations and have a Facebook group of 70,000 that’s growing fast.
  • Executive employment will continue to feel pressure, and job searches will get increasingly difficult for many, especially those with “traditional” jobs that depend on Industrial Economy organization.
    • In tandem with this, there will be more opportunities for people who can “free-agent” themselves in some form.
    • In 2009, an increasing portion of executives will have success at using social networks to diminish their business development costs, and their lead will subsequently accelerate the leeching of enterprises’ best and brightest, many of whom could have more flexibility and better pay as independents. This is already manifest as displaced executives choose never to go back.
    • The enterprise will continue to unbundle. I have covered this extensively on the Transourcing website.
  • Enterprise clients will start asking for “strategy” to synchronize social media initiatives. Web 2.0 is following the classic adoption pattern: thus far, most enterprises have been using a skunk works approach to their social media initiatives, or they’ve been paying their agencies to learn while delivering services.
    • In the next phase, beginning in 2009, CMOs, CTOs and CIOs will sponsor enterprise level initiatives, which will kick off executive learning and begin enterprise development of social media native skills. After 1-2 years of this, social media will be spearheaded by VPs and directors.
    • Professional services firms (PwC, KPMG, Deloitte..) will begin scrambling to pull together advisory practices after several of their clients ask for strategy help. These firms’ high costs do not permit them to build significantly ahead of demand.
    • Marketing and ad agencies (Leo Burnett, Digitas…) will also be asked for strategy help, but they will be hampered by their desires to maintain the outsourced model; social media is not marketing, even though it will displace certain types of marketing.
    • Strategy houses (McKinsey, BCG, Booz Allen…) will also be confronted by clients asking for social media strategy; their issue will be that it is difficult to quantify, and the implementation piece is not in their comfort zone, reducing revenue per client.
    • Boutiques will emerge to develop seamless strategy and implementation for social networks. This is needed because Web 2.0 and social networks programs involve strategy, but implementation involves little technology when compared to Web 1.0. As I’ll discuss in an imminent article, it will involve much more interpersonal mentoring and program development.
  • Corporate spending on Enterprise 2.0 will be very conservative, and pureplay and white label vendors (and consultants) will need to have strong business cases.
    • CIOs have better things to spend money on, and they are usually reacting to business unit executives who are still getting their arms around the value of Web 2.0, social networks and social media.
    • Enterprise software vendors will release significant Web 2.0 bolt-on improvements to their platforms in 2009. IBM is arguably out in front with Lotus Connections, with Microsoft Sharepoint fielding a solid solution. SAP and Oracle will field more robust solutions this year.
  • The financial crunch will accelerate social network adoption among those focused on substance rather than flash; this is akin to the dotbomb from 2001-2004, no one wanted to do the Web as an end in itself anymore; it flushed out the fluffy offers (and well as some really good ones).
    • Social media can save money.. how much did it cost the Obama campaign in time and money to raise $500 million? Extremely little.
    • People like to get involved and contribute, when you can frame the activity as important and you provide the tools to facilitate meaningful action. Engagement raises profits and can decrease costs. Engaged customers, for example, tend to leave less often than apathetic customers.
    • Social media is usually about engaging volunteer contributors; if you get it right, you will get a lot of help for little cash outlay.
    • Social media presents many new possibilities for revenue, but to see them, look outside existing product silos. Focus on customer experience by engaging customers, not with your organization, but with each other. Customer-customer communication is excellent for learning about experience.
  • Microblogging will completely mainstream even though Twitter is still quite emergent and few solid business cases exist.
    • Twitter (also Plurk, Jaiku, Pownce {just bought by Six Apart and closed}, Kwippy, Tumblr) are unique for two reasons: they incorporate mobility seamlessly, and they chunk communications small; this leads to a great diversity of “usage context”
    • Note that Dell sold $1 million on Twitter in 2008, using it as a channel for existing business.
    • In many businesses, customers will begin expecting your organization to be on Twitter; this year it will rapidly cease to be a novelty.

    2009 Recommendations

    Web 2.0 will affect business and culture far more than Web 1.0 (the internet), which was about real-time information access and transactions via a standards-based network and interface. Web 2.0 enables real-time knowledge and relationships, so it will profoundly affect most organizations’ stakeholders (clients, customers, regulators, employees, directors, investors, the public…). It will change how all types of buying decisions are made.

    As an individual and/or an organization leader, you have the opportunity to adopt more quickly than your peers and increase your relevance to stakeholders as their Web 2.0 expectations of you increase. 2009 will be a year of significant adoption, and I have kept this list short, general and actionable. I have assumed that your organization has been experimenting with various aspects of Web 2.0, that some people have moderate experience. Please feel free to contact me if you would like more specific or advanced information or suggestions. Recommendations are ranked in importance, the most critical at the top.

    1. What: Audit your organization’s Web 2.0 ecosystem, and conduct your readiness assessment. Why: Do this to act with purpose, mature your efforts past experimentation and increase your returns on investment.
      • The ecosystem audit will tell you what stakeholders are doing, and in what venues. Moreover, a good one will tell you trends, not just numbers. In times of rapid adoption, knowing trends is critical, so you can predict the future. Here’s more about audits.
      • The readiness assessment will help you to understand how your value proposition and resources align with creating and maintaining online relationships. The audit has told you what stakeholders are doing, now you need to assess what you can do to engage them on an ongoing basis. Here’s more about readiness assessments.
    2. What: Select a top executive to lead your organization’s adoption of Web 2.0 and social networks. Why: Web 2.0 is changing how people interact, and your organizational competence will be affected considerably, so applying it to your career and business is very important.
      • This CxO should be someone with a track record for innovation and a commitment to leading discontinuous change. Should be philosophically in synch with the idea of emergent organization and cross-boundary collaboration.
      • S/He will coordinate your creation of strategy and programs (part-time). This includes formalizing your Web 2.0 policy, legal and security due diligence.
    3. What: Use an iterative portfolio approach to pursue social media initiatives in several areas of your business, and chunk investments small.
      Why: Both iteration and portfolio approaches help you to manage risk and increase returns.
    • Use the results of the audit and the readiness assessment to help you to select the stakeholders you want to engage.
    • Engage a critical mass of stakeholders about things that inspire or irritate them and that you can help them with.
    • All else equal, pilots should include several types of Web 2.0 venues and modes like blogs, big branded networks (Facebook, MySpace), microblogs (Twitter), video and audio.
    • As a general rule, extensive opportunity exists where you can use social media to cross boundaries, which usually impose high costs and prevent collaboration. One of the most interesting in 2009 will be encouraging alumni, employees and recruits to connect and collaborate according to their specific business interests. This can significantly reduce your organization’s business development, sales and talent acquisition costs. For more insight to this, see Alumni 2.0.
    • Don’t overlook pilots with multiple returns, like profile management programs, which can reduce your talent acquisition and business development costs. Here’s more on profile management.


  • What: Create a Web 2.0 community with numerous roles to enable employees flexibility.
    Why: You want to keep investments small and let the most motivated employees step forward.

    • Roles should include volunteers for pilots, mentors (resident bloggers, video producers and others), community builders (rapidly codify the knowledge you are gathering from pilots), some part-time more formal roles. Perhaps a full-time person to coordinate would make sense. Roles can be progressive and intermittent. Think of this as open source.
    • To stimulate involvement, the program must be meaningful, and it must be structured to minimize conflicts with other responsibilities.
  • What: Avoid the proclivity to treat Web 2.0 as a technology initiative. Why: Web 1.0 (the Internet) involved more of IT than does Web 2.0, and many people are conditioned to think that IT drives innovation; they fall in the tech trap, select tools first and impose process. This is old school and unnecessary because the tools are far more flexible than the last generation software with which many are still familiar.
    • People create the value when they get involved, and technology often gets in the way by making investments in tools that impose process on people and turn them off. Web 2.0 tools impose far less process on people.
    • More important than what brand you invest in is your focus on social network processes and how they add value to existing business processes. If you adopt smartly, you will be able to transfer assets and processes elsewhere while minimizing disruption. More likely is that some brands will disappear (Pownce closed its doors 15 December). When you focus your organization on mastering process and you distribute learning, you will be more flexible with the tools.
    • Focus on process and people, and incent people to gather and share knowledge and help each other. This will increase your flexibility with tools.
  • What: Manage consulting, marketing and technology partners with a portfolio strategy. Why: Maximize flexibility and minimize risk.
    • From the technology point of view, there are three main vendor flavors: enterprise bolt-on (i.e. Lotus Connections), pureplay white label vendors (SmallWorldLabs) and open (Facebook, LinkedIn). As a group, pureplays have the most diversity in terms of business models, and the most uncertainty. Enterprise bolt-ons’ biggest risk is that they lag significantly behind. More comparisons here.
    • Fight the urge to go with one. If you’re serious about getting business value, you need to be in the open cross-boundary networks. If you have a Lotus or Microsoft relationship, compare Connections and Sharepoint with some pureplays to address private social network needs. An excellent way to start could be with Yammer.
    • Be careful when working with consulting- and marketing-oriented partners who are accustomed to an outsourced model. Web 2.0 is not marketing; it is communicating to form relationships and collaborate online. It does have extensive marketing applications; make sure partners have demonstrated processes for mentoring because Web 2.0 will be a core capability for knowledge-based organizations, and you need to build your resident knowledge.
  • Parting Shots

    I hope you find these thoughts useful, and I encourage you to add your insights and reactions as comments. If you have additional questions about how to use Web 2.0, please feel free to contact me. I wish all the best to you in 2009.

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    Evolving Trends

    Wikipedia 3.0: The End of Google?

    In Uncategorized on June 26, 2006 at 5:18 am

    Author: Marc Fawzi

    License: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0


    Semantic Web Developers:

    Feb 5, ‘07: The following external reference concerns the use of rule-based inference engines and ontologies in implementing the Semantic Web + AI vision (aka Web 3.0):

    1. Description Logic Programs: Combining Logic Programs with Description Logic (note: there are better, simpler ways of achieving the same purpose.)

    Click here for more info and a list of related articles…


    Two years after I published this article it has received over 200,000 hits and we now have several startups attempting to apply Semantic Web technology to Wikipedia and knowledge wikis in general, including Wikipedia founder’s own commercial startup as well as a startup that was recently purchased by Microsoft.

    Recently, after seeing how Wikipedia’s governance is so flawed, I decided to write about a way to decentralize and democratize Wikipedia.

    Versión española


    (Article was last updated at 10:15am EST, July 3, 2006)

    Wikipedia 3.0: The End of Google?


    The Semantic Web (or Web 3.0) promises to “organize the world’s information” in a dramatically more logical way than Google can ever achieve with their current engine design. This is specially true from the point of view of machine comprehension as opposed to human comprehension.The Semantic Web requires the use of a declarative ontological language like OWL to produce domain-specific ontologies that machines can use to reason about information and make new conclusions, not simply match keywords.

    However, the Semantic Web, which is still in a development phase where researchers are trying to define the best and most usable design models, would require the participation of thousands of knowledgeable people over time to produce those domain-specific ontologies necessary for its functioning.

    Machines (or machine-based reasoning, aka AI software or ‘info agents’) would then be able to use those laboriously –but not entirely manually– constructed ontologies to build a view (or formal model) of how the individual terms within the information relate to each other. Those relationships can be thought of as the axioms (assumed starting truths), which together with the rules governing the inference process both enable as well as constrain the interpretation (and well-formed use) of those terms by the info agents to reason new conclusions based on existing information, i.e. to think. In other words, theorems (formal deductive propositions that are provable based on the axioms and the rules of inference) may be generated by the software, thus allowing formal deductive reasoning at the machine level. And given that an ontology, as described here, is a statement of Logic Theory, two or more independent info agents processing the same domain-specific ontology will be able to collaborate and deduce an answer to a query, without being driven by the same software.

    Thus, and as stated, in the Semantic Web individual machine-based agents (or a collaborating group of agents) will be able to understand and use information by translating concepts and deducing new information rather than just matching keywords.

    Once machines can understand and use information, using a standard ontology language, the world will never be the same. It will be possible to have an info agent (or many info agents) among your virtual AI-enhanced workforce each having access to different domain specific comprehension space and all communicating with each other to build a collective consciousness.

    You’ll be able to ask your info agent or agents to find you the nearest restaurant that serves Italian cuisine, even if the restaurant nearest you advertises itself as a Pizza joint as opposed to an Italian restaurant. But that is just a very simple example of the deductive reasoning machines will be able to perform on information they have.

    Far more awesome implications can be seen when you consider that every area of human knowledge will be automatically within the comprehension space of your info agents. That is because each info agent can communicate with other info agents who are specialized in different domains of knowledge to produce a collective consciousness (using the Borg metaphor) that encompasses all human knowledge. The collective “mind” of those agents-as-the-Borg will be the Ultimate Answer Machine, easily displacing Google from this position, which it does not truly fulfill.

    The problem with the Semantic Web, besides that researchers are still debating which design and implementation of the ontology language model (and associated technologies) is the best and most usable, is that it would take thousands or tens of thousands of knowledgeable people many years to boil down human knowledge to domain specific ontologies.

    However, if we were at some point to take the Wikipedia community and give them the right tools and standards to work with (whether existing or to be developed in the future), which would make it possible for reasonably skilled individuals to help reduce human knowledge to domain-specific ontologies, then that time can be shortened to just a few years, and possibly to as little as two years.

    The emergence of a Wikipedia 3.0 (as in Web 3.0, aka Semantic Web) that is built on the Semantic Web model will herald the end of Google as the Ultimate Answer Machine. It will be replaced with “WikiMind” which will not be a mere search engine like Google is but a true Global Brain: a powerful pan-domain inference engine, with a vast set of ontologies (a la Wikipedia 3.0) covering all domains of human knowledge, that can reason and deduce answers instead of just throwing raw information at you using the outdated concept of a search engine.


    After writing the original post I found out that a modified version of the Wikipedia application, known as “Semantic” MediaWiki has already been used to implement ontologies. The name that they’ve chosen is Ontoworld. I think WikiMind would have been a cooler name, but I like ontoworld, too, as in “it descended onto the world,” since that may be seen as a reference to the global mind a Semantic-Web-enabled version of Wikipedia could lead to.

    Google’s search engine technology, which provides almost all of their revenue, could be made obsolete in the near future. That is unless they have access to Ontoworld or some such pan-domain semantic knowledge repository such that they tap into their ontologies and add inference capability to Google search to build formal deductive intelligence into Google.

    But so can Ask.com and MSN and Yahoo…

    I would really love to see more competition in this arena, not to see Google or any one company establish a huge lead over others.

    The question, to rephrase in Churchillian terms, is wether the combination of the Semantic Web and Wikipedia signals the beginning of the end for Google or the end of the beginning. Obviously, with tens of billions of dollars at stake in investors’ money, I would think that it is the latter. No one wants to see Google fail. There’s too much vested interest. However, I do want to see somebody out maneuver them (which can be done in my opinion.)


    Please note that Ontoworld, which currently implements the ontologies, is based on the “Wikipedia” application (also known as MediaWiki), but it is not the same as Wikipedia.org.

    Likewise, I expect Wikipedia.org will use their volunteer workforce to reduce the sum of human knowledge that has been entered into their database to domain-specific ontologies for the Semantic Web (aka Web 3.0) Hence, “Wikipedia 3.0.”

    Response to Readers’ Comments

    The argument I’ve made here is that Wikipedia has the volunteer resources to produce the needed Semantic Web ontologies for the domains of knowledge that it currently covers, while Google does not have those volunteer resources, which will make it reliant on Wikipedia.

    Those ontologies together with all the information on the Web, can be accessed by Google and others but Wikipedia will be in charge of the ontologies for the large set of knowledge domains they currently cover, and that is where I see the power shift.

    Google and other companies do not have the resources in man power (i.e. the thousands of volunteers Wikipedia has) who would help create those ontologies for the large set of knowledge domains that Wikipedia covers. Wikipedia does, and is positioned to do that better and more effectively than anyone else. Its hard to see how Google would be able create the ontologies for all domains of human knowledge (which are continuously growing in size and number) given how much work that would require. Wikipedia can cover more ground faster with their massive, dedicated force of knowledgeable volunteers.

    I believe that the party that will control the creation of the ontologies (i.e. Wikipedia) for the largest number of domains of human knowledge, and not the organization that simply accesses those ontologies (i.e. Google), will have a competitive advantage.

    There are many knowledge domains that Wikipedia does not cover. Google will have the edge there but only if people and organizations that produce the information also produce the ontologies on their own, so that Google can access them from its future Semantic Web engine. My belief is that it would happen but very slowly, and that Wikipedia can have the ontologies done for all the domain of knowledge that it currently covers much faster, and then they would have leverage by the fact that they would be in charge of those ontologies (aka the basic layer for AI enablement.)

    It still remains unclear, of course, whether the combination of Wikipedia and the Semantic Web herald the beginning of the end for Google or the end of the beginning. As I said in the original part of the post, I believe that it is the latter, and the question I pose in the title of this post, in this context, is not more than rhetorical. However, I could be wrong in my judgment and Google could fall behind Wikipedia as the world’s ultimate answer machine.

    After all, Wikipedia makes “us” count. Google doesn’t. Wikipedia derives its power from “us.” Google derives its power from its technology and inflated stock price. Who would you count on to change the world?

    Response to Basic Questions Raised by the Readers

    Reader divotdave asked a few questions, which I thought to be very basic in nature (i.e. important.) I believe more people will be pondering about the same issues, so I’m to including here them with the replies.

    How does it distinguish between good information and bad? How does it determine which parts of the sum of human knowledge to accept and which to reject?

    It wouldn’t have to distinguish between good vs bad information (not to be confused with well-formed vs badly formed) if it was to use a reliable source of information (with associated, reliable ontologies.) That is if the information or knowledge to be sought can be derived from Wikipedia 3.0 then it assumes that the information is reliable.

    However, with respect to connecting the dots when it comes to returning information or deducing answers from the sea of information that lies beyond Wikipedia then your question becomes very relevant. How would it distinguish good information from bad information so that it can produce good knowledge (aka comprehended information, aka new information produced through deductive reasoning based on exiting information.)

    Who, or what as the case may be, will determine what information is irrelevant to me as the inquiring end user?

    That is a good question and one which would have to be answered by the researchers working on AI engines for Web 3.0

    There will be assumptions made as to what you are inquiring about. Just as when I saw your question I had to make assumption about what you really meant to ask me, AI engines would have to make an assumption, pretty much based on the same cognitive process humans use, which is the topic of a separate post, but which has been covered by many AI researchers.

    Is this to say that ultimately some over-arching standard will emerge that all humanity will be forced (by lack of alternative information) to conform to?

    There is no need for one standard, except when it comes to the language the ontologies are written in (e.g OWL, OWL-DL, OWL Full etc.) Semantic Web researchers are trying to determine the best and most usable choice, taking into consideration human and machine performance in constructing –and exclusive in the latter case– interpreting those ontologies.

    Two or more info agents working with the same domain-specific ontology but having different software (different AI engines) can collaborate with each other.

    The only standard required is that of the ontology language and associated production tools.


    On AI and Natural Language Processing

    I believe that the first generation of AI that will be used by Web 3.0 (aka Semantic Web) will be based on relatively simple inference engines that will NOT attempt to perform natural language processing, where current approaches still face too many serious challenges. However, they will still have the formal deductive reasoning capabilities described earlier in this article, and users would interact with these systems through some query language.

    On the Debate about the Nature and Definition of AI

    The embedding of AI into cyberspace will be done at first with relatively simple inference engines (that use algorithms and heuristics) that work collaboratively in P2P fashion and use standardized ontologies. The massively parallel interactions between the hundreds of millions of AI Agents that will run within the millions of P2P AI Engines on users’ PCs will give rise to the very complex behavior that is the future global brain.


    1. Web 3.0 Update
    2. All About Web 3.0 <– list of all Web 3.0 articles on this site
    3. P2P 3.0: The People’s Google
    4. Reality as a Service (RaaS): The Case for GWorld <– 3D Web + Semantic Web + AI
    5. For Great Justice, Take Off Every Digg
    6. Google vs Web 3.0
    7. People-Hosted “P2P” Version of Wikipedia
    8. Beyond Google: The Road to a P2P Economy

    Update on how the Wikipedia 3.0 vision is spreading:

    Update on how Google is co-opting the Wikipedia 3.0 vision:

    Web 3D Fans:

    Here is the original Web 3D + Semantic Web + AI article:

    Web 3D + Semantic Web + AI *

    The above mentioned Web 3D + Semantic Web + AI vision which preceded the Wikipedia 3.0 vision received much less attention because it was not presented in a controversial manner. This fact was noted as the biggest flaw of social bookmarking site digg which was used to promote this article.

    Web 3.0 Developers:

    Feb 5, ‘07: The following external reference concerns the use of rule-based inference engines and ontologies in implementing the Semantic Web + AI vision (aka Web 3.0):

    1. Description Logic Programs: Combining Logic Programs with Description Logic (note: there are better, simpler ways of achieving the same purpose.)

    Jan 7, ‘07: The following Evolving Trends post discusses the current state of semantic search engines and ways to improve the paradigm:

    1. Designing a Better Web 3.0 Search Engine

    June 27, ‘06: Semantic MediaWiki project, enabling the insertion of semantic annotations (or metadata) into the content:

    1. http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki (see note on Wikia below)

    Wikipedia’s Founder and Web 3.0


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    Evolving Trends

    Google Warming Up to the Wikipedia 3.0 vision?

    In Uncategorized on December 14, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    [source: slashdot.org]

    Google’s “Knol” Reinvents Wikipedia

    Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday December 14, @08:31AM
    from the only-a-matter-of-time dept.


    teslatug writes “Google appears to be reinventing Wikipedia with their new product that they call knol (not yet publicly available). In an attempt to gather human knowledge, Google will accept articles from users who will be credited with the article by name. If they want, they can allow ads to appear alongside the content and they will be getting a share of the profits if that’s the case. Other users will be allowed to rate, edit or comment on the articles. The content does not have to be exclusive to Google but no mention is made on any license for it. Is this a better model for free information gathering?”

    This article Wikipedia 3.0: The End of Google?  which gives you an idea why Google would want its own Wikipedia was on the Google Finance page for at least 3 months when anyone looked up the Google stock symbol, so Google employees, investors and executive must have seen it. 

    Is it a coincidence that Google is building its own Wikipedia now?

    The only problem is a flaw in Google’s thinking. People who author those articles on Wikipedia actually have brains. People with brains tend to have principles. Getting paid pennies to build the Google empire is rarely one of those principles.


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    Tech Biz  :  IT   

    Murdoch Calls Google, Yahoo Copyright Thieves — Is He Right?

    By David Kravets EmailApril 03, 2009 | 5:00:18 PMCategories: Intellectual Property  

    Murdoch_2 Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp. and The Wall Street Journal, says Google and Yahoo are giant copyright scofflaws that steal the news.

    “The question is, should we be allowing Google to steal all our copyright … not steal, but take,” Murdoch says. “Not just them, but Yahoo.”

    But whether search-engine news aggregation is theft or a protected fair use under copyright law is unclear, even as Google and Yahoo profit tremendously from linking to news. So maybe Murdoch is right.

    Murdoch made his comments late Thursday during an address at the Cable Show, an industry event held in Washington. He seemingly was blaming the web, and search engines, for the news media’s ills.

    “People reading news for free on the web, that’s got to change,” he said.

    Real estate magnate Sam Zell made similar comments in 2007 when he took over the Tribune Company and ran it into bankruptcy.

    We suspect Zell and Murdoch are just blowing smoke. If they were not, perhaps they could demand Google and Yahoo remove their news content. The search engines would kindly oblige.

    Better yet, if Murdoch and Zell are so set on monetizing their web content, they should sue the search engines and claim copyright violations in a bid to get the engines to pay for the content.

    The outcome of such a lawsuit is far from clear.

    It’s unsettled whether search engines have a valid fair use claim under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The news headlines are copied verbatim, as are some of the snippets that go along.

    Fred von Lohmann of the Electronic Frontier Foundation points out that “There’s not a rock-solid ruling on the question.”

    Should the search engines pay up for the content? Tell us what you think.

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    Hakia – First Meaning-based Search Engine

    Written by Alex Iskold / December 7, 2006 12:08 PM / 43 Comments

    Written by Alex Iskold and edited by Richard MacManus. There has been a lot of talk lately about 2007 being the year when we will see companies roll out Semantic Web technologies. The wave started with John Markoff’s article in NY Times and got picked up by Dan Farber of ZDNet and in other media. For background on the Semantic Web in this era, check out our post entitled The Road to the Semantic Web. Also for a lengthy, but very insightful, primer on Semantic Web see Nova Spivak’s recent article.

    The media attention is not accidental. Because Semantic Web promises to help solve information overload problems and deliver major productivity gains, there is a huge amount of resources, engineering and creativity that is being thrown at the Semantic Web. 

    What is also interesting is that there are different problems that need to be solved, in order for things to fall into place. There needs to be a way to turn data into metadata, either at time of creation or via natural language processing. Then there needs to be a set of intelligence, particularly inside the browser, to take advantage of the generated metadata. There are many other interesting nuances and sub-problems that need to be solved, so the Semantic Web marketplace is going to have a rich variety of companies going after different pieces of the puzzle. We are planning to cover some of these companies working in the Semantic Web space, so watch out for more coverage here on Read/WriteWeb.

    Hakia: how is it different from Google?

    The first company we’ll cover is Hakia, which is a “meaning-based” search engine startup getting a bit of buzz. It is a venture-backed, multi-national team company headquartered in New York – and curiously has former US senator Bill Bradley as a board member. It launched its beta in early November this year, but already ranks around 33K on Alexa – which is impressive. They are scheduled to go live in 2007.

    The user interface is similar to Google, but the engine prompts you to enter not just keywords – but a question, a phrase, or a sentence. My first question was: What is the population of China?

    As you can see the results were spot on. I ran the same query on Google and got very similar results, but sans flag. Looking carefully over the results in Hakia, I noticed the message:

    “Your query produced the Hakia gallery for China. What else do you want to know about China?”

    At first this seems like a value add. However, after some thinking about it – I am not sure. What seems to have happened is that instead of performing the search, Hakia classified my question and pulled the results out of a particular cluster – i.e. China. To verify this hypothesis, I ran another query: What is the capital of china?. The results again suggested a gallery for China, but did not produce the right answer. Now to Hakia’s credit, it recovered nicely when I typed in:

    Hakia experiments

    Next I decided to try out some of the examples that the Hakia team suggests on its homepage, along with some of my own. The first one was Why did the chicken cross the road?, which is a Hakia example. The answers were fine, focusing on the ironic nature of the question. Particularly funny was Hakia’s pick:

    My next query was more pragmatic: Where is the Apple store in Soho? (another example from Hakia). The answer was perfect. I then performed the same search on Google and got a perfect result there too. 

    Then I searched for Why did Enron collapse?. Again Hakia did well, but not noticeably better than Google. However, I did see one very impressive thing in Hakia. In its results was this statement: Enron’s collapse was not caused by overstated resource reserves, but by another kind of overstatement. This is pretty witty…. but I am still not convinced that it is doing semantic analysis. Here is why: that reply is not constructed out of words because Hakia understands the semantics of the question. Instead, it pulled this sentence out of one of the documents which had a high rank, that matches the Why did Enron collapse? query.

    In my final experiment, Hakia beat Google hands down. I asked Why did Martha Stewart go to jail? – which is not one of Hakia’s homebrewed examples, but it is fairly similar to their Enron example. Hakia produced perfect results for the Martha question:

    Hakia is impressive, but does it really understand meaning?

    I have to say that Hakia leaves me intrigued. Despite the fact that it could not answer What does Hakia mean? and despite the fact that there isn’t sufficient evidence yet that it really understands meaning. 

    It’s intriguing to think about the old idea of being able to type a question into a computer and always getting a meaningful answer (a la the Turing test). But right now I am mainly interested in Hakia’s method for picking the top answer. That seems to be Hakia’s secret sauce at this point, which is unique and works quite well for them. Whatever heuristic they are using, it gives back meaningful results based on analysis of strings – and it is impressive, at least at first.

    Hakia and Google

    Perhaps the more important question is: Will Hakia beat Google? Hakia itself has no answer, but my answer at this point is no. This current version is not exciting enough and the resulting search set is not obviously better. So it’s a long shot that they’ll beat Google in search. I think if Hakia presented one single answer for each query, with the ability to drill down, it might catch more attention. But again, this is a long shot.

    The final question is: Is semantical search fundamentally better than text search?. This is a complex question and requires deep theoretical expertise to answer it definitively. Here are a few hints…. 

    Google’s string algorithm is very powerful – this is an undeniable fact. A narrow focused vertical search engine, that makes a lot of assumptions about the underlying search domain (e.g. Retrevo) does a great job in finding relevant stuff. So the difficulty that Hakia has to overcome is to quickly determine the domain and then to do a great job searching inside the domain. This is an old and difficult problem related to the understanding of natural language and AI. We know it’s hard, but we also know that it is possible. 

    While we are waiting for all the answers, please give Hakia a try and let us know what you think.

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    • Good analysis, I wanted to write one but now there’s no need (:Anyway, I fail to see the difference between a ‘semantic’ search engine and a regular search engine. All search engines are ‘semantic’ in a way. If you type something like ‘How do you make a hot-dog’ in Google, it will give you the right answers. It won’t just search for “how”, then “do”, etc. and compile the results. It also has algorithms which know how to decipher the order of words in a sentence and other patterns that makes our writing meaningful.

      So, Hakia should do something really spectacular to beat Google with the semantic approach. It should actually be able to understand complex sentences better than Google, and as such be a search engine for more complex tasks, for example for questions like ‘I need drivers for Geforce 8800, but not the latest version’. Currently, compared to Google, it doesn’t deliver.

      Posted by: franticindustries | December 7, 2006 12:36 PM

    • What’s interesting is that Ask started out by trying to create just this type of search engine years ago. They abandoned that approach in favor of a more traditional Google competitor. So can we interpret from that that Ask learned that people would rather use a traditional search engine, or was there another reason for the switch?This type of semantical search technology seems especially well suited to encyclopedia sites like Wikipedia or Britannica. I.e., being able to type in “What is the capital of China?” at Wikipedia and get not only relevant topic articles about China, but also the specific answer, would be great. I would love to see a semantic search engine built into MediaWiki. But web search engines should, in my opinion, direct you to a variety of relevant sources.

      I don’t think I’d feel comfortable asking “What were the causes of the American Civil War?” and have the search engine only spit back one result answer (or, one viewpoint).

      Posted by: Josh | December 7, 2006 12:58 PM

    • Josh,Excellent points. I really like the Wiki idea.
      In terms of single answer, I think if you are looking for a quick answer – possibly, but otherwise you would defnitely want more results.

      The other thought occurs to me is that we might not necessarily need the new way of inputing the question in as much as we need new ways of getting the answer. So in a way, I view vertical search engines, like Retrevo, as approaching the same problem but from more pragmatic and better angle.


      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 7, 2006 1:02 PM

    • Greetings from hakia!Thanks for the review and comments. We appreciate feedback:-)

      We are still developing, it will CONTINUE TO IMPROVE as many of the meaning associations will form in time, like connecting the neurons inside the human brain during childhood. hakia is like a TWO-year old child on the cognitive scale. But it grows EXPONENTIALLY — much faster than a human.



      Posted by: melek pulatkonak | December 7, 2006 2:05 PM

    • Melek,Thats great! Please make sure it does not become self-aware. I would hate for it to experience the kind of pain we do 🙂


      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 7, 2006 2:19 PM

    • Noted:-)Melek

      Posted by: melek pulatkonak | December 7, 2006 2:25 PM

    • Hakia is promising, good to see this early review, but we’ll be able to judge them only after the official debut. Bad comments > /dev/nullPosted by: Emre Sokullu | December 7, 2006 2:55 PM

    • Hakia sounds quite Finnish – hakea means to fetch for instance.Reminds a little of Ms Dewey actually, but not as, errm, Flash. 🙂

      Posted by: Juha | December 7, 2006 3:58 PM

    • So, do they intend to read RDF? That is, the data about the data.I’d like to talk to them as it simple to read Content Labels. They can then provide users with more information about a sites *before* having to enter them… And that is based on Semantic capabilities 😉

      Posted by: Paul Walsh | December 7, 2006 4:31 PM

    • @Juha: yes, Hakia names comes from that Finish word. See About Us section of their site.Posted by: Emre Sokullu | December 7, 2006 5:03 PM

    • Paul,It seems to me that their claim to fame is that they do not need RDF because they mastered NLP (natural language processing).


      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 7, 2006 5:15 PM

    • That’s a great question you bring up though Paul. Semantic Web is really associated with RDF, thanks largely to Tim Berners-Lee’s relentless promotion of RDF as ‘HTML 2.0’ (to coin a very awkward phrase!). So how many of these new meaning-based search engines coming on the market will utilize RDF?Alex is much more of an expert in these things than me, but still NLP seems to me the harder route to take – given all the difficulties AI has had in the past.

      Posted by: Richard MacManus | December 7, 2006 6:34 PM

    • I think search engines need to focus on the social aspect. Tracking what users search for and allowing them to vote on sites. This allows them to make good decisions – to immediately understand the domain a housewife is referring to when she says soap and when a developer says the same.Posted by: David Mackey | December 7, 2006 7:59 PM

    • Hmmm, doesn’t like “Where can I find a good globe?” much (a recent search that hadn’t worked too well for me on Google or Froogle). First link is good practice guidelines and legislation reform, which appear to use the word “GLOBE” for some reason (I can’t torture it enough to make it an acronym). Granted, the second link was to an eBay auction for a globe. Third was an auction for a Lionel station light “with globe”. The first and third results suggest to me that the meaning of the question hadn’t been understood. Still, we’re talking beta here, and it’s a very difficult problem. It’ll be interesting to see how they progress.Posted by: T.J. Crowder | December 8, 2006 1:06 AM

    • Hello Melek,
      Hakia rocks, its a really good search experience!Cheers.

      Posted by: Abhishek Sharma | December 8, 2006 2:33 AM

    • A semantic search is quite different from a text search like Google, which is not primarily based on context and the relationship between words and resources, but on the occurrence and position of words.If Haika really does semantic searches it could easily distinguish itself from Google by generating new content (e.g.) answers, that combine relevant unique snippets of information to a semantic result/answer to a query, as opposed to just a list of resources like the other search engines do and Haika currently does. In that case you don’t have to visit the resources to get the answer.

      The query “What is the capital of Finland?”, could show Helsinki as an answer and provide related answers regarding history, population, etymology, other capitals etc.

      For this capability Haika should not only be able to do semantic searches, but entity extraction as well, since RDF and XML schema’s are not that widespread at the moment.

      If they can manage to do this, people won’t hesitate to abandon Google, especially because the Google brand is loosing it’s value rapidly because of SEO, spamming and privacy intrusions…

      Posted by: Gert-Jan van Engelen | December 8, 2006 4:04 AM

    • I think Hakia is bluffing if it claims to be ‘semantic’. I find it as semantic as Google :-)I tried questions like
      Why did the US attack Iraq?
      Why did Israel attack Lebanon?

      It gace absolutely unrealted results which confirms that it is as good as as text search. However, when i tried the Q – “Who is Mahatama Gandhi?” – it immediately responded with a remark “See below the Mahatma Gandhi resume by hakia. What else do you want to know about Mahatma Gandhi?”

      My hunch is that Hakia guys have set up a word filter before the search query gets executed on its DB (call it a ‘semantic filter’ if you’s like). If it contains words like ‘Who’ or ‘What’ it is set to return the ‘resumes’ and ‘galariies’ for the rest of the search terms. But that isnt what a semantic is about – the engine still does not ‘understand’ my question – thats just a slightly ‘domain restricted’ search being performed.

      I could as well have a dropdown for domain (who, what etc) before the search box and retrict the search queries myself!

      While Hakia is not bad – i wont give up my Google for it!

      Posted by: Nikhil Kulkarni | December 8, 2006 8:25 AM

    • really? no one but me remembers askjeeves? i’m all about semantic web, but i’m also skeptical of the recycling of web 1.0 into web 2.0. gigaom & techcrunch have already covered a few companies who have tried this, and while i’m sure hakia is great, let’s not pretend they reinvented the wheel. the concept isn’t new.Posted by: geektastik | December 8, 2006 9:08 AM

    • “but already ranks around 33K on Alexa – which is impressive.”Impressive? Give it a break.

      Posted by: michal frackowiak | December 8, 2006 2:05 PM

    • As pointed out in #16, a Semantic Web search is radically different from a regular search. I see no reason to believe that Hakia has anything to do with the “Semantic Web” proper, as the underlying technologies – RDF, OWL, and so forth – simply are not in widespread use.If the people publishing data on the web are not publishing it in a format which is intended for consumption by the Semantic Web – and most people aren’t – then either Hakia has next to nothing to do with the Semantic Web, or they’ve made an earth-shattering breakthrough in Natural Language Processing.

      Posted by: Phillip Rhodes | December 8, 2006 2:07 PM

    • michal,33K rank is impressive given that the service just launched beta.


      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 8, 2006 2:26 PM

    • It’s my opinion that for a semantic search engine to *really* work properly, it will have to
      a. have demographic – based parsing logic, not just language – based.
      b. know the demographics of the user submitting the query.Posted by: Ernesto | December 8, 2006 2:31 PM

    • Ernesto,Add other factors like the stuff you like, etc. That would be more of a personalized search. I think the way to go is:

      Personalize( Semantic Search ) ==> Really cool stuff.


      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 8, 2006 2:36 PM

    • Remember that Google’s growth was spread basically by word of mouth not SUV megalith marketing.
      If google an upstart can do it to yahoo it can happen again.Posted by: Shinderpal jandu | December 8, 2006 2:49 PM

    • This concept didn’t work with ask.com, it ain’t gonna work again now. It simply isn’t how people search for information on the web.
      There are many ways to work search engines but I’m quite surprise we keep seeing the same thing over and over again. What we are missing are real innovations, not a second runner up of same clothes with a different name.Posted by: Sal | December 8, 2006 2:55 PM

    • Ask both of them (and Ask.com) this question:
      what is 5 plus 5?enough said.

      Posted by: Dave | December 8, 2006 3:01 PM

    • @Dave – duh. Things like calculating 5 plus 5 is a VERY simple matter of doing word associations with relevant mathematical operators. Something which I’m sure Hakia can achieve shortly.The more interesting phrases here are – as Melek mentioned above – “connections being formed cognitively” and “intelligent as a 2 year old”. Is the engine behind it aware of the data it parses and spits out? What is the level of awareness then – Word associations, lexical analysis, categorization and meaning vs actual causal factors?

      Posted by: Viksit | December 8, 2006 3:53 PM

    • Nice work, going to check out how this handles.Posted by: Tele Man | December 8, 2006 4:25 PM

    • Very interesting, and props to the developers. I know it’s not a new concept (as pointed out earlier, ASK did try to do it), but then again, neither was a GUI when Apple took over… these things take development — do you know how long the concept of the Macintosh was alive at Xerox park before Jobs discovered it and furthered the development into a now-common operating system? Give Hakia (and semantic-search) a change to develop. Recycled ideas usually have merit. That’s why they’re recycled. They just didn’t get developed 100% the first time around.I do, however, see Hakia as far away from success of semantics. To get the semantics perfectly, and accomplish its goal here, it really has to conquer Bloom’s Taxonomy of learning and apply it to each query; especially if it is to return one (or few) valued and cross-compiled results from different sources.

      Currently, it wouldn’t pass a TRUE Turing Test — just mimics the foreign language copied from book to carry on conversation argument proposed by (insert name here, I forget it at the moment…)
      ^Wow… I just referred to like 5 things I learned last quarter in my freshman computer science classes… that felt good. Hope my thoughts make sense. Keep up the work Hakia, I really would be impressed to see success here, I just think it would have to incorporate some AI which is not looking good (from my eyes, anyway).

      Posted by: Augie | December 8, 2006 9:08 PM

    • I think Hakia weighted W5 (Who, What, Where, When and Why) heavily in the search queries. I think Hakia is decent but I am still not too sure the difference in using semantical search or text search (if the text search query is specific enough).Posted by: andy kong | December 8, 2006 9:34 PM

    • While there is some growing interest in semantics and meaning, partly due to work in the semantic web and upstarts like Hakia, the first copy of the first semantic search engine was delivered to the Congressional Research Service in 1988. I know because I was there and I installed it for the research staff there.In your analysis you asked: Does Hakia really understand meaning?. I think the question that has to be answered first is: What does it mean to understand meaning?. Long before you come to the turning test, you have to come to understand what the term “semantics” means and how it is used and understood by those in and outside the domain of software and computational technology practice.

      The answer to the last question you offered: Is semantical search fundamentally better than text search? depends greatly upon what you think semantical means in a search and retrieval context.

      In a word though, the answer is a resounding Yes.

      I think, in its most common and general usage (among peoples) semantics refers to the interpretation of the significance of the relationships and interactions of subjects and objects in a situational context.

      For example, the semantics of the state of affairs in modern day Iraq range over a state of civil war to extreme cases of outside insurgencies intended to deceive and delude. When the semantics are cloudy and unclear, judgments and decisions about what and how to name particular aspects of the state of affairs can also be murky. Thereby interdependent judgments or decisions become delayed or the subject of further debate. Ideally you want to present a situation such that a uniform perception emerges, with semantics (significance) that drives or guides interpretations such that those that are relevant and those with the same validity or authority prevail.

      As the Bush administration has demonstrated, the process, the presentation, the semantics– can become political and highly charged. When questions of significance persist, that is, questions ranging over the signifier and signified in a given situation, uncertainty, lack of clarity and disarray blur and obscure any significance and generally erode confidence and delay action.

      This is not the kind of semantics the Semantic Web and AI technologies proclaim. In their quest to share and exchange information, they want just enough semantics to normalize data labels between systems so that they are able to exchange information and be sure they are referring to the same items in the data exchange. They want to use named references, with authority of course. In fact, they strive to clear and unambiguous semantics –a foreign concept to the Bush administration.

      But semantics has to do with the significance of interpretation. What is significant in our experience of the search and retrieval application. What is of significance in the results of the search engine? Relevance. The benefit of semantic search is greater relevance. For Hakia to be relevant, it has to offer more relevance than Google. A semantic search engine should also offer more– in my opinion.

      A modern language semantic search engine should offer more than relevance. It should offer insight. Rather than fixing semantics to simple categories for easy exchange, a truly semantical search engine should aid and assist one while exploring topics. It should help to relate language to abstract ideas instead of just connecting the keywords, names and nouns.

      Posted by: Ken Ewell | December 8, 2006 11:32 PM

    • No,It is not better than google ,type the ame questions in google and you wll get better answersPosted by: jyotheendra | December 8, 2006 11:37 PM

    • Gee golly, as far ahead of me Ken Ewell is in every sense of technological knowledge and understanding, I have to say… You went way off topic just to make a point about the Bush administration… I get so sick of that.Of course semantic search is better than connecting language parts. People may not think it’s better, but I argue that they only feel that way because they are used to searching with boolean operators and combinations of keywords. Everyone knows WHAT SPECIFICALLY they want to find, but some people have trouble putting their question into acceptable and successful search terms… Imagine never having to phrase a question specially for a search engine: just type what you’re wondering, and have an instand answer.

      Much easier than combining keywords with booleans to try to simplify natural language to “search engine” language!

      PS — No offense to you, Mr Ewell — I really do respect that your technological insights and opinions are worth 10 times my own because of the knowledge gap; I guess I just got really sick of seeing more politically charged comments in non-related areas… I’m just sick of politics all-together right now, I think. Not trying to start a flame-war or anything! 🙂

      Posted by: Auggie | December 9, 2006 1:36 AM

    • Great job done by hakiaI got the perfect answers to my questions in the top 3-5 links and this saved a lot of time.

      I am impressed

      Posted by: priya | December 9, 2006 11:42 AM

    • What about Chacha.com? they actually have guides who help you with your search.Posted by: Tori | December 9, 2006 3:26 PM

    • Unfortunately, Tori, I was unable to ever get a guide connected to use, but I do remember trying that out a few days ago and thinking it was a pretty cool concept… as long as they don’t charge you for it ever! Could you connect to guides?Posted by: Auggie | December 10, 2006 1:33 AM

    • Guides worked for me.Alex.

      Posted by: Alex Iskold | December 10, 2006 6:15 AM

    • Looks like there’s a /very/ long way to go yet. Given that “what is the capital of china” is semantically ambigous, I tried to be helpful:what is the administrative capital of China
      what is the administrative capital of the United States of America
      what is the administrative capital of the USA
      what is the administrative capital of the US

      Unfortunately, Hakia provided irrelevant answers to all four questions. Google got 4/4.

      Given the apparently overwhelming power of Google’s indexing algorithm and the extent of their dataset, a semantic-based search facility such as Hakia may have to seek a qualitatively different area of search in which to make a contribution.

      Posted by: Graham Higgins | December 10, 2006 7:33 AM

    • Ref: # 35Tried the so called ChaCha.com forget about getting any good result, it felt like I was doing a chat!!! Users around the world have limited attention period. Getting best (no precise) results with minimum efforts – that’s the key. Advanced search and Personalized search have been there for long time with no good impact on users.
      Hakia – doing good work, but it’s too early to say something concrete. In addition, I would not like to accept that Google doesn’t have sementic features in their search algorithm. I’m sure they are working on it or looking out for something good (startup kid).

      Posted by: Dhruba Baishya | December 16, 2006 7:24 PM

    • props to geektastik for doing what the author failed to do. Mention askjeeves.Posted by: Bog | December 19, 2006 9:41 AM

    • I mention Ask Jeeves in the second comment. ;)Posted by: Josh | December 23, 2006 5:10 PM

    • This is good example of success of hakia
      why dont people tell their salaries?Posted by: Anonymous | January 3, 2007 2:14 AM

    • The main for Hakia is that Google is not standing still. G has a secret project which I feel must be to do with semantics.BTW – Google does not use any knowledge of semantics for translation. We have from Google.

      El barco attravesta una cerradua – un vuelo de cerraduras – La estacion de ressorte – jogar de puente

      The last is particular annoying. My daughter plays for England and I when I try to search for “Bridge” I am overwhemed with sites on civil engineering.

      I specifically tested these.
      with Hakia

      The locks on the Grand Union Canal
      Spring flowers (primavera) Springs in Gloustershire (mamanthal)
      Bridge tournaments

      The results on the whole were satisfactory – much better than Google. Understand is a difficult word to define. My definition (bueno espagnol) is the difference between Primavera, Ressorte, Mamanthal. In other words can we use our “understanding” in an operational way. My view is that precise definition + a large enough database = Turing. To some extent Hakia appears to do this. It must be the future. The fly in the oitment is what Google is doing.

      Posted by: Ian Parker | January 6, 2007 5:27 AM

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